Hosting with the subtle worlds

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Comment by Ursula Hillbrand on June 15, 2011 at 1:59pm

This get's right to the point Ria, not to blindly apply something, but to truly sense what happens. My question was for observations, which we make through sensing, and then verufy what works, or doesn't. There might be moment, one way works, and other situations we feel different. So if any more folks have own, felt observations, please do share them!

Comment by Ria Baeck on June 15, 2011 at 12:59pm

I know  from far away training in the Druid tradition, that the circle is opened in one direction, and at the end of the ritual the circle is closed again in the other direction.

But there is also habit in this... in the southern hemisphere it might be different...

the point is - I guess - not to become rigid about it, but to become aware of what is appropriate on the subtle level.

Comment by Simon d'Orsogna on June 15, 2011 at 9:37am

Thanks for the thread here. Holding it from the other side of the world weaves us together, joins us as if we were never apart. What a thought.

I wondered about the spiral, the circle and other shapes that are deeply expressing what is beyond words - and how they might have a deeper pattern too.

I found myself remembering this from Angeles Arrien - might fit here. It is to me so simple and deeply aesthetic, right feeling...

PreferentialShapesTestWORKSHEET-AArrien.doc

First view the paper, think of all the ways these shapes might be arranged in an order - then to arrange these shapes from those you most like to those you like least (just for now, for today)... then write or draw these down somewhere.

Then,check from about 3min to 7min from this longer video from Angeles presentation-lecture http://vimeo.com/15657160 for the elaboration and expansion of what is figured there - including what is said about spiral, circle...

Subtle energy is held  in place-land, in shape, in how we arrange ourselves around what seeks to be spoken in each moment - in what listens to us listening too.

Comment by Hala Makarem on June 15, 2011 at 7:32am

Sarah, the subtle energy that I read today is: flexibility harmonising equilibrium and peace coming from the east ... something is sprouting and it is in those movements that we sense the beginning of the emergence .. I join all who are intentionally holding space at this moment of time , you are so right "This is the time for space holding like never before" .. and then what shows up is what is necessary to go through the transition ... (Helen, thank you for your insight, I enjoyed reading them)

 

Ursula, what I sensed after reading your inquiry about the clockwise, counterclockwise is an image where

we open up from the east unfolding what wants to emerge going clockwise, and we close from the east enfolding back the emergent vision and discovered identity going counterclockwise ... so it is a dance between unfolding outwards initially, and enfolding the insights inwards closure ... (just a thought and image that showed up) ...

Comment by Helen Titchen Beeth on June 15, 2011 at 5:27am

Sarah, as you were writing this, we were in a preparation call for hosting a large participatory event (as you know... ;-)) - the reality of the place where you are was fully present with us in the space of our call, and will be fully present in the room as we host the 120 people who will show up from all corners of Europe, with a background of working with citizen participation.

There is much that we can learn from what is happening in Greece and Spain.

There is much that can frighten us that is ready to erupt around the edges. That's why it is so important to hold the centre, and to expand out from there.

At the centre is an intention for newness and transformation, in the direction of more listening, more humanity, more heart, more authenticity, more inclusion, more care and compassion, more connection with nature and our living planet.

I feel that since the beginning of this year, I have been holding a vast perimeter, and I can feel that I have been joined by more and more people in that holding.

We are at your backs as you move into Syntagma. At that level of subtle knowing, Sarah, I know that your being physically present there with Maria will help to anchor something sacred in the field. That's what I'm holding on to now.

Comment by Sarah Whiteley on June 15, 2011 at 4:01am

Friends...how can those in the subtle worlds and those who are the 'bridgers' or 'translators' of it, bring this realm of capacity into real work and service.  http://artofhosting.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-place-and-people-call...  Today, people are gathering in Syntagma Square, Athens, to call in newness and transformation.  Already it is 'edgy' and yet, we still must gather.  This is the time for space holding like never before. 

Comment by Helen Titchen Beeth on June 15, 2011 at 3:18am

Hi Ursula - what an interesting question! At the Commission's first ever practice day in Luxembourg, we used the talking piece in the check-in and the check-out - but differently both times. At the beginning, we passed the piece to the left... so clockwise. At the end, to honour the increased level of intimacy and depth in the group, we put the talking piece back in the middle after each check out, and people had to step into the centre and take and claim it when they felt moved to speak.

We spent some time talking about this in the hosting team when designing the day - just sat in circle and shared our sensing about what the difference between these two different ways of using the piece. These were not every experienced hosts, but they intuitively knew, and sensed into, the subtle differences between these different ways. In that instance, of course, it was the circle itself- held by two more experienced 'stewards' that created the container where they accessed this knowing together.

Comment by Ursula Hillbrand on June 14, 2011 at 6:56pm

One aspect of the subtle worlds are the energies that are present in the room, in the "invisible" container we create and between the people.

Recently I hosted a circle with a check in and a check out, both times going round clock wise. When the talking piece traveled clockwise to close, it felt somehow awkward. I do have Toke's recommendation in mind, that it is good to start clock wise and finish the other way, and that usually felt good.

This time checking out counter clockwise did not satify me, (I did not want to interfer with the flow once it started), and I had room for observing.

Does  energy get built up clock wise and settle down counter clockwise? Have any of you made observations?

Comment by Ursula Hillbrand on April 1, 2011 at 6:19am

Comment by Ursula Hillbrand on March 23, 2011 at 4:58pm

Dear Carla, as a singer you for sure know the state of see/hear? It is so subtle, the senses connect to perceive it? one of my singing teachers following the Lichtenberg method, which is entirely based on searching for the real sound outside and inside oneself, and then letting the rest of one's machinery be selforganised by being guided through the search/longing for the true radiance in one's voice.  In order to do that one needs to give up anything "material" to get to the subtle. Dropping the material world becomes a gateway.

 

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