Thanks to George Por: " very timely conversation worth listening to. In this podcast, Jeff Salzman, an integralist, an evolutionary, and a public commentator is talking with Dr. Aftab Omer, a sociologist, psychologist and integralist who was raised in Pakistan, India and Turkey, and is the CEO of Meridian University in California. (Dr. Omer has also co-led a workshop with Thomas Hübl on Presencing Collective Wisdom: Transformative Learning and the Future of Culture.)"

As Muslims Move Into Modernity: A Conversation with Aftab Omer - Se...

Thomas Hübl on HOW to RELATE to WAR

"to disassociate from life is the main pathology where Holocaust come from...to disassociate from the world, from what we hear, read and what we feel...because i have a response ability when i disassociate i limit my response ability....to stay connect to this... is that the fire that clear my heart....what is to feel connected"

George Por : "I found wise guidance in Thomas' words about the right relationship to war. 
You can listen to it here:https://soundcloud.com/thomashuebl/how-to-relate-to-war.

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